Бәхәс:Mordva
Кириллик әлифба белән латин әлифбасын бутамаска тырышыйк. – Timming 9. May 2009, 12:05 (UTC)
- Алайса латин әлифбасыннан Кирилл әлифбасына кайбер мәкаләләрне күчерсәм каршы килүчеләр булмас дип уйлым. Garant^^ 9. May 2009, 19:40 (UTC)
Dear Friends! Unfortunately мин белесем татарча but very poor. I'm Mokshan and I can assure you there are no Mordvins and they never existed. There are two separate ethnicities Mokshas and Erzyas (Karatais are actually an ethnographic group of Mokshas who speak Tatar dialect, Shokshas are considered an ethnographic group of Erzyas but it is disputed as many scientists regard them as a separate ethnicity, so-called Terjukhans are just Russified Erzyas who lived in Teryushevskaya volost of Nizhniy Novgorod gubernia). Mordvin language never existed, two literary languages with respective languge codes do exist: Mokshan (mdf) and Erzyan (myv). We are still beating around the bush with this issue in English wiki due to lack of English language sources on the subject, you can see long discussion regarding this here. I would like to ask you kindly to create separate articles "Мокшалар" and "Ерзялар" if you want to avoid creation of dead-end articles in future (I mean normally any article on an ethnic group is linked with its language arcticle, its history , etc). Existence of Tatar article "Mokshas" is very important for Moksha wiki. English stub article "Mokshas" is still here awaiting for approval. Moksha wiki article is here. As to this article stub "Mordwalar" I would suggest to keep it but with respective explanations and links to "Mokshalar" and "Erzyalar" (don't know correct name in Tatar) . Actually, decision is up to Tatar wiki users/admins, so this is not an advise or request, just a proposal re correct articles creation. All Volga Finnish during Soviet rule were called 'mordvins'. Please help us to return back our good name. Thank you Numulunj pilgae
- Ok, we will keep in mind your opinion --Timming 11 июн 2010, 20:20 (UTC)
- Thank you for you answer, Timming. It's not "my opinion". If you do not have time to look at list of sources following the links I cited in my message I can list them all over here.mdf:User:Numulunj pilgae